Thursday, August 17, 2017

On the politics of "the Redeemer"

do you have TV yet ? Jacob Goldfarb: not yet Andrew are u gonna get it ? Jacob Goldfarb: Eventually Andrew the yankees are beating the mets 3-0 it's the 1st inning i was hoping the mets could get at least 1 out of the 4 games they played this week Jacob Goldfarb: Not a surprise Andrew the red sox won a thrilling game last night ! my parents went to provincetown on wednesday and i stayed at their house and took care of their dog Jacob Goldfarb: Wow, we just went there last week Andrew provincetown's gay pride parade was today -- my mother thought it was going to be on wednesday -- but it was still pretty gay, even though Jacob Goldfarb: We thought there were too many straight people 😉 Andrew lol my parents took the ferry - it leaves from the plymouth waterfront and it takes 90 minutes to get to p-town Jacob Goldfarb: yeah, Anthony took the ferry from Boston Andrew and what did you take or did you drive ? Jacob Goldfarb: I drove. I had to go to a family funeral in Syracuse, and then drive back. Andrew wow, that s a lot of driving my parents went to the Squealing Pig in Provincetown whose funeral ? Jacob Goldfarb: My cousin Rosemary's husband. Andrew oh im sorry - what age was he ? Jacob Goldfarb: Thanks... In his 80s Andrew oh so he was no kid ! im surprised you have cousins so old two of my cousins died recently Jacob Goldfarb: My dad's first cousin Andrew now that i think about it Jacob Goldfarb: I'm sorry to hear that Andrew Greg and Ryan Greene they are my mother's cousins, so second cousins of mine ? Jacob Goldfarb: I think? never could get that right. Andrew second cousin, once removed i think? greg had a criminal record, he also had diabetes and got an infection in his foot my mother is unsure how ryan greene died, complications from surgery i think Jacob Goldfarb: Oy Were you close to them? Andrew no, i hadn't seen them since before high school time keep on slippin' into the future ! Jacob Goldfarb: yup yup Andrew now im reading a book by william dean howells called the rise of silas lapham - i am reading that online and i am re-reading 'on the genealogy of moral' by friedrich nietzsche i made a note of several passages i wanted to send to you for your reaction Jacob Goldfarb: I reserve the right to ignore them Andrew why would you ? Jacob Goldfarb: Lots of asshole Nazis are running around quoting Nietzsche lately. No interest in that shit. Andrew the term anti-semitism first appeared in germany in 1873 nietzsche is not an anti-semite, at least he has no problem with modern jews nor does he have a problem with the jews of the old testament Jacob Goldfarb: What's an "old testament"? Andrew as opposed to the new testament Jacob Goldfarb: You mean the Christian Bible? Andrew yes Jacob Goldfarb: OK then call it that. Andrew ok Jacob Goldfarb: My Bible isn't a testament, and it's certainly not old. Andrew you call it the jewish bible, i assume ? Jacob Goldfarb: Well among Jews I call it the Tanakh. Andrew but i think on wikipedia it is called the old testament Jacob Goldfarb: The term "Jewish Bible" or "Hebrew Bible" is fine. Andrew and i think among biblical scholars it is called the old testament Jacob Goldfarb: Scholars know better. Unless they're assholes. Andrew you're quite the cynic tonight ! ahem.... Jacob Goldfarb: Nah dude. I'm seeing the truth about a lot of "nice" people who don't give a shit about Jews. I have no patience for it. Andrew such as which people ? Jacob Goldfarb: Such as the "well there are bad people on both sides" crowd. The "what about Black Lives Matter" crowd. The "Obama started it crowd." Andrew there is some footage of assemblages of people attacking each other ? i'm not so up to speed about what happened, to be honest it looked like a free for all but then james alex field drove his car into a group of protesters and he was a nazi-synmpathizer Jacob Goldfarb: I thought you said you watched the Vice video Andrew i only saw a clip on charlie rose i find it hard to get you interested in me so i said about vice Jacob Goldfarb: I'M ALWAYS INTERESTED IN YOU HONEY Andrew ok lol - but i saw msnbc on Sunday and it was showing footage on a near riot 2 sides attacking each other, who were they ? and a group called antifa who my parents said had clubs Jacob Goldfarb: Nazis marched on an American town, threatened a synagogue, waved swastikas, and killed someone. There's no confusion in mind. Andrew did you see the footage of two mobs attacking each other ? it was insane ! Jacob Goldfarb: I saw Nazis. Some people protested them. I thank God for those people. Andrew you didnt see two sides attacking each other with weapons b/c you dont have TV Jacob Goldfarb: I have a computer. Nazis, man. There's no two sides. Andrew on sunday i saw a general melee Jacob Goldfarb: Whatever Andrew yesterday i saw nazis marching with tiki torches Jacob Goldfarb: That was Friday night Andrew i didnt see that until yesterdsay so i say you go down to charlottesville and clean up ! and ill straight out their incomplete interpretatiom of nietzsche Jacob Goldfarb: ok Andrew ok good now you're talking Jacob Goldfarb: Hey man I've had about 8 congregants come to me with teary eyed because they're terrified and furious. This is not funny to us. Andrew what can you do ? trump's daiughter is Jewish Jacob Goldfarb: Calm and comfort them. Accompany them to the rally in Boston. Andrew ok, i think that's a good start i was just re-reading Nietzsche and it appears he comes across as an anti-semite Jacob Goldfarb: mmmm hmmm Andrew his problem is not so much with the ancient jews of the "old testament" or with modern jews but with the priestly-prophetic period of jewish history that he believed forms a continuity with the beginning of christianity it says Andrew i believe nietzsche is wrong in seeing the jews as having effected a reversal of values thru a cunning revenge; nietzsche didn't have the psychological insight to see the jews were key in the development of a religious system that entailed a less degree of projection than was held in the european systems Andrew nietzsche's real problem was that he saw himself as an aristocrat and he saw the judeo-christian morality which came into being, one that said that salvation was for those who were lowly in political-economic stature, as anathema what do you think of that ? Jacob Goldfarb: My God and my Torah tell me that all people are created in God's image. Nietzsche think that makes me weak. But Nietzsche is dead and the Jews are alive. So Nietzsche and his ugly Nazi stepchildren can fuck all the way off. Andrew he's a powerful polemicist, but i agree he's wrong Jacob Goldfarb: he's a putz Andrew if you read totem and taboo by freud you might have more of a critical insight into the nature of religion If you read Screw magazine, you might get a hard-on. Andrew Freud said we were once in clans rules by a father who possessed all the women and foodstuffs and we eventually banded together and killed him and these feelings of honoring the dethroned and sacrificed father have passed down to us in thre form of religious systems Jacob Goldfarb: Cool story bro Andrew you have to read it ! i am a freud-nietzsche-marx man, myself..... Jacob Goldfarb: Andrew it's very enlightening to me because i also have had the direct experience of knowing God, which i'm not aware that anyone else has had... Jacob Goldfarb: oh yes Andrew i told me story to some researchers from california and they took my blood and paid me $100 and they went to my parents house and took their blood and paid them $100 each Jacob Goldfarb: Your blood is worth more than $100! Andrew yes but what do you think of that ? Jacob Goldfarb: Which part? Andrew what i just said about the researchers from CA isnt that interesting ? Jacob Goldfarb: Your connection to God is more interesting Andrew thank you, goodnight Jacob Goldfarb: Love you brother

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