On the politics of "the Redeemer"
do you have TV yet ?
Jacob Goldfarb:
not yet
Andrew
are u gonna get it ?
Jacob Goldfarb:
Eventually
Andrew
the yankees are beating the mets 3-0 it's the 1st inning
i was hoping the mets could get at least 1 out of the 4 games they played this week
Jacob Goldfarb:
Not a surprise
Andrew
the red sox won a thrilling game last night !
my parents went to provincetown on wednesday and i stayed at their house and took care of their dog
Jacob Goldfarb:
Wow, we just went there last week
Andrew
provincetown's gay pride parade was today -- my mother thought it was going to be on wednesday -- but it was still pretty gay, even though
Jacob Goldfarb:
We thought there were too many straight people 😉
Andrew
lol
my parents took the ferry - it leaves from the plymouth waterfront and it takes 90 minutes to get to p-town
Jacob Goldfarb:
yeah, Anthony took the ferry from Boston
Andrew
and what did you take or did you drive ?
Jacob Goldfarb:
I drove. I had to go to a family funeral in Syracuse, and then drive back.
Andrew
wow, that s a lot of driving
my parents went to the Squealing Pig in Provincetown
whose funeral ?
Jacob Goldfarb:
My cousin Rosemary's husband.
Andrew
oh im sorry - what age was he ?
Jacob Goldfarb:
Thanks... In his 80s
Andrew
oh so he was no kid !
im surprised you have cousins so old
two of my cousins died recently
Jacob Goldfarb:
My dad's first cousin
Andrew
now that i think about it
Jacob Goldfarb:
I'm sorry to hear that
Andrew
Greg and Ryan Greene
they are my mother's cousins, so second cousins of mine ?
Jacob Goldfarb:
I think? never could get that right.
Andrew
second cousin, once removed i think?
greg had a criminal record, he also had diabetes and got an infection in his foot
my mother is unsure how ryan greene died, complications from surgery i think
Jacob Goldfarb:
Oy
Were you close to them?
Andrew
no, i hadn't seen them since before high school
time keep on slippin' into the future !
Jacob Goldfarb:
yup yup
Andrew
now im reading a book by william dean howells called the rise of silas lapham - i am reading that online
and i am re-reading 'on the genealogy of moral' by friedrich nietzsche
i made a note of several passages i wanted to send to you for your reaction
Jacob Goldfarb:
I reserve the right to ignore them
Andrew
why would you ?
Jacob Goldfarb:
Lots of asshole Nazis are running around quoting Nietzsche lately. No interest in that shit.
Andrew
the term anti-semitism first appeared in germany in 1873
nietzsche is not an anti-semite, at least he has no problem with modern jews
nor does he have a problem with the jews of the old testament
Jacob Goldfarb:
What's an "old testament"?
Andrew
as opposed to the new testament
Jacob Goldfarb:
You mean the Christian Bible?
Andrew
yes
Jacob Goldfarb:
OK then call it that.
Andrew
ok
Jacob Goldfarb:
My Bible isn't a testament, and it's certainly not old.
Andrew
you call it the jewish bible, i assume ?
Jacob Goldfarb:
Well among Jews I call it the Tanakh.
Andrew
but i think on wikipedia it is called the old testament
Jacob Goldfarb:
The term "Jewish Bible" or "Hebrew Bible" is fine.
Andrew
and i think among biblical scholars it is called the old testament
Jacob Goldfarb:
Scholars know better. Unless they're assholes.
Andrew
you're quite the cynic tonight ! ahem....
Jacob Goldfarb:
Nah dude. I'm seeing the truth about a lot of "nice" people who don't give a shit about Jews. I have no patience for it.
Andrew
such as which people ?
Jacob Goldfarb:
Such as the "well there are bad people on both sides" crowd. The "what about Black Lives Matter" crowd. The "Obama started it crowd."
Andrew
there is some footage of assemblages of people attacking each other ? i'm not so up to speed about what happened, to be honest
it looked like a free for all
but then james alex field drove his car into a group of protesters and he was a nazi-synmpathizer
Jacob Goldfarb:
I thought you said you watched the Vice video
Andrew
i only saw a clip on charlie rose
i find it hard to get you interested in me so i said about vice
Jacob Goldfarb:
I'M ALWAYS INTERESTED IN YOU HONEY
Andrew
ok lol - but i saw msnbc on Sunday and it was showing footage on a near riot
2 sides attacking each other, who were they ?
and a group called antifa who my parents said had clubs
Jacob Goldfarb:
Nazis marched on an American town, threatened a synagogue, waved swastikas, and killed someone. There's no confusion in mind.
Andrew
did you see the footage of two mobs attacking each other ?
it was insane !
Jacob Goldfarb:
I saw Nazis. Some people protested them. I thank God for those people.
Andrew
you didnt see two sides attacking each other with weapons b/c you dont have TV
Jacob Goldfarb:
I have a computer. Nazis, man. There's no two sides.
Andrew
on sunday i saw a general melee
Jacob Goldfarb:
Whatever
Andrew
yesterday i saw nazis marching with tiki torches
Jacob Goldfarb:
That was Friday night
Andrew
i didnt see that until yesterdsay
so i say you go down to charlottesville and clean up !
and ill straight out their incomplete interpretatiom of nietzsche
Jacob Goldfarb:
ok
Andrew
ok good now you're talking
Jacob Goldfarb:
Hey man I've had about 8 congregants come to me with teary eyed because they're terrified and furious. This is not funny to us.
Andrew
what can you do ?
trump's daiughter is Jewish
Jacob Goldfarb:
Calm and comfort them. Accompany them to the rally in Boston.
Andrew
ok, i think that's a good start
i was just re-reading Nietzsche and it appears he comes across as an anti-semite
Jacob Goldfarb:
mmmm hmmm
Andrew
his problem is not so much with the ancient jews of the "old testament" or with modern jews but with the priestly-prophetic period of jewish history that he believed forms a continuity with the beginning of christianity
it says
Andrew
i believe nietzsche is wrong in seeing the jews as having effected a reversal of values thru a cunning revenge; nietzsche didn't have the psychological insight to see the jews were key in the development of a religious system that entailed a less degree of projection than was held in the european systems
Andrew
nietzsche's real problem was that he saw himself as an aristocrat
and he saw the judeo-christian morality which came into being, one that said that salvation was for those who were lowly in political-economic stature, as anathema
what do you think of that ?
Jacob Goldfarb:
My God and my Torah tell me that all people are created in God's image. Nietzsche think that makes me weak. But Nietzsche is dead and the Jews are alive.
So Nietzsche and his ugly Nazi stepchildren can fuck all the way off.
Andrew
he's a powerful polemicist, but i agree he's wrong
Jacob Goldfarb:
he's a putz
Andrew
if you read totem and taboo by freud you might have more of a critical insight
into the nature of religion
If you read Screw magazine, you might get a hard-on.
Andrew
Freud said we were once in clans rules by a father
who possessed all the women and foodstuffs
and we eventually banded together and killed him
and these feelings of honoring the dethroned and sacrificed father have passed down to us in thre form of religious systems
Jacob Goldfarb:
Cool story bro
Andrew
you have to read it !
i am a freud-nietzsche-marx man, myself.....
Jacob Goldfarb:
Andrew
it's very enlightening to me because i also have had the direct experience of knowing God, which i'm not aware that anyone else has had...
Jacob Goldfarb:
oh yes
Andrew
i told me story to some researchers from california and they took my blood and paid me $100 and they went to my parents house and took their blood and paid them $100 each
Jacob Goldfarb:
Your blood is worth more than $100!
Andrew
yes but what do you think of that ?
Jacob Goldfarb:
Which part?
Andrew
what i just said about the researchers from CA
isnt that interesting ?
Jacob Goldfarb:
Your connection to God is more interesting
Andrew
thank you, goodnight
Jacob Goldfarb:
Love you brother
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